Cessna 210 Spin.mpg

October 12, 2008

Cessna 210 Spin

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25 Responses to “Cessna 210 Spin.mpg”

  1. BrettVisionSLR on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    Proper spin …
    Proper spin recovery techniques might have helped – however, proper weight and balance is critical too. If overgross, and aft of the rearward limit, it’s quite possible that the spin will become unrecoverable no matter what inputs the pilot gives.

  2. rdelaney9984 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    Man, all this guy …
    Man, all this guy really had to do was relax back pressure and kick in a little rudder opposite the spin direction. Also, most cessnas will recover on their own if you just let go of the yoke. I really think spin training needs to be taught in Private pilot instruction

  3. rdelaney9984 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    Actually, in a spin …
    Actually, in a spin both wings are stalled, just one is stalled more than the other.

  4. mjok2004 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    Yes a spin is …
    Yes a spin is entered with one wing stalling before the other but when the entry or incipient stage of a spin develops into a “Developed” spin both wings are stalled.
    AIRSPEED IS LIFE altude is LIFE INSURANCE

  5. jeffodickenson on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    thats not right a …
    thats not right a spin is entered when one wing stall before the other

  6. tomcatfalcon1416 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    Ha ha yea, tell me …
    Ha ha yea, tell me about it~ it was also a common maneuver with WWI/ WWII pilots.

  7. mjok2004 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    I know people that …
    I know people that have actually decended through cloud in ultralight with spin. No chance of becomming disoriented inside the cloud 🙂 more food for thought

  8. tomcatfalcon1416 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    No you dont sound …
    No you dont sound like one, its all good.. but you are correct to a point. Depending on the severity of the entry, both wings may be stalled, but that is not always the case. You can spin a plane and have only one wing stalled. We are both correct. But in any spin one wing will be creating more lift than the other, but doesnt have to be stalled. On another note..a spin is actually the most efficient way to rapidly decend a plane~ just some food for thought lol.

  9. mjok2004 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    I don’t want to …
    I don’t want to sound like aknow it all but in a spin both wings are stalled just the inside wing is more stalled than the outside thats why if you hold a spin the aircraft is virtually unloaded.

  10. tomcatfalcon1416 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    routhoula… dont …
    routhoula… dont take this personally,but what you saw was definately a spin, not a stall. Stalls lead to spins, so here really only one wing is stalled…But I agree with you, the plane is most likely oveloaded, which is probably what caused the onset of the crash (plane stalled, entered a traditional upright spin, and inherently crashed). May they rest easy..

  11. routhoula on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    first the aircraft …
    first the aircraft was overloaded
    second the pilot propably wasn’t properly trained for spinning.
    third the aircraft most certainly stalled
    and forth some thought that by overloading the aircraft would make more money. more ppl in a planes means more money in one flight but also more risk.
    oh and fifth
    some ppl think that x sports worth the risk cause your adrenaline goes high and all this bullshit. no, x sport don’t worth the risk, and if you thing otherwise, i’ll come to your funeral.

  12. tambocha on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    This happens far …
    This happens far too often. Or rather, pilots and skydiving schools create the conditions for this to happen far too often, and as a result, planes crash. Skydive planes are notorious for flying overloaded…schools convince themselves that the “fudge factor” built in to the loading envelope in the manual will save them, but they’re sometimes badly mistaken. These accidents aren’t the fault of a pilot who failed to recover from a spin, but of a pilot/dive school that overloaded the plane.

  13. N9602FL on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    i think captOrange1 …
    i think captOrange1 is right..

  14. N9602FL on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    “maybe is not as …
    “maybe is not as bad as it looks” … and 7?? who in their right mind would put “7 sky divers plus” plus the pilot total 8, this airplane can only hold 6! head, idiots like these made the insurance on the 210 go higher, it nice airplane trust me but if you mess with her it will bite your head off, proud owner of a 210N!

  15. mjok2004 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    I practice stall …
    I practice stall and spin recovery often. Like anything the more you practice the better you will grease your recoveries. I know instructors here in Australia that refuse to teach them but understanding the feel of entry then you can better recover before that incipient turn into a developed spin. How did this dude get into a spin anyway is my question. AIRSPEED IS LIFE!

  16. roofy2k on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    totally true about …
    totally true about the training, and any student or licensed pilot can and should go up with an instructor and practice spin recovery

  17. gamotonfasismo on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    spin recovery isn’t …
    spin recovery isn’t in the basic pilot training. It should. 2 cases: pilot knew about but there was heavy load or pilot was hole, so as the guys who gave him a plane and 9 people.

  18. captOrange1 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    c’mon LOL5K your …
    c’mon LOL5K your mother didn´t die ’cause one of these msgs, she died ’cause of many times a camel ed her in the , one of those days after a camel´s she went to take a with tremendous diarrea and you were born, no ones mother will die because of your stupid msgs my son, go to school, get a job, get a life or go and join your ugly death mother.

  19. dbowie2007 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    All the comments …
    All the comments here are just about the spin theory itself, but no ones mentions “why” they think this cessa 210 entered in spin in the first place. I think the pilot may wanted to slow down the speed to stall limits so the divers could jump out and then he entered in a spin, and because they were like 9 people in a plane of 6, it could be very hard to recover the plane, any thoughs?

  20. srodriguez54 on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    Its obvious, the …
    Its obvious, the pilot was not properly trained in how to recover from a spin.Each aircrafts POH has the procedures in recovering from a spin, pilots fault.

  21. movitmovit on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    i’m sure that’s …
    i’m sure that’s true but i was responding to the comment that if the throttle was not reduced on entering the spin, you would enter a dive that you could not recover from. are you claiming that this is true for the 210? i know it’s not true for the 172 because i accidently did it once. and to anyone reading, of course i am *not* saying that it is okay or safe to disregard proper spin recovery procedure.

  22. djmighton on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    k 172 is ment for …
    k 172 is ment for spin training u let go of the stick and they basically recover themselfs lol, 210 isnt ment for spins

  23. Jetjockey on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    9 people in a …
    9 people in a Cessna 210 ?? IDIOTS !!

    The Cessna 210 is a 6 place aircraft, INCLUDING the pilot !!

  24. DropDeadSweet on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    aaaahahahahaha….. …
    aaaahahahahaha……loooool XDDD

  25. movitmovit on October 12th, 2008 7:19 am

    actually, that’s …
    actually, that’s not quite true, at least for the cessna 172. when i was training for spins i stupidly forgot to reduce the throttle one time and was still able to recover just fine. of course it’s not smart to have throttle up when you’re heading towards ground and reducing power to idle is the first step to *proper* spin recovery.

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