NICE LANDING !!! DUDES.

October 18, 2008

“Close call” Airbus A320 landing at Hamburg RWY 23 ….The pressure for the darn ON TIME PERFORMANCE combined with the lack of positive judgement and/or poor preventive guidance from dispatch/ATC …JAA syllabus and in house flight training should be closely revaluated in order to avoid future tragedies.
Notes from a European Airbus Driver;

Wind was 290/33 gusts to 49 (time ~ 13:55)
happened on flight LH 044 (D-AIQP) a A320 from MUC
runway for landing 23 LOC-DME (ATIS gave no other option)
after g/a, pilots elected runway 33 also LOC-DME approach and landed safely…

Airbus recommeded limits;
T/O 29 kts gusting 38 kts
Ldg: 33 kts gusting 38 kts

for non-contaminated runways – goes down for flooded runways, snow, ice etc.

The crosswind limit is defined as the crosswind at which no pilot input is required in yaw until the nosewheel is down in a normal landing (same for any commercial jet). Yes you can land with more of a crosswind if you are a good pilot but you are exceeding the certified limit and will be hung in any aaib investigation that arises.

Duration : 0:1:6


Comments

25 Responses to “NICE LANDING !!! DUDES.”

  1. DJMedinaz on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    oh …
    oh …

  2. TheOrangeFrog on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    It was impossible …
    It was impossible to land savely, so they gave full power to the engines.

  3. ed061 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    GEEZ! I’d hate to …
    GEEZ! I’d hate to be an aircraft cleaner after that one… soiled seats all over the place..

  4. EpsilonVaz on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    Just would like to …
    Just would like to point out, that they were not over the x-wind limits stated in the manual. The runway was 23 and the wind was 290, so it’s not a full x-wind so you dont take the total value into account.

  5. polita5 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    the things these …
    the things these pilots do to get on youtube

  6. jimbob3284 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    bet that was a …
    bet that was a scary ride lol

  7. migueyeah123 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    azota el ventarron …
    azota el ventarron quiñones

  8. lear6t2 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    and you fly a…..
    and you fly a…..

  9. RyanCabinCrew on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    hey, it is not …
    hey, it is not landing!!!

  10. ohgund on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    haha, ich wohne da …
    haha, ich wohne da um die ecke!
    i live there^^

  11. pilatus5000 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    actually excellent …
    actually excellent pilot….oh no.
    that was pilot induced. Someone needs to rent a buck 52 and freshen up on thier xwind.
    Lucky everyones not dead…..

  12. thehalfvolley on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    the things these …
    the things these pilots do to get on youtube

  13. mompidi on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    seated in your …
    seated in your coach in your living room is really easy to landing it!!!! LOL

  14. lalozorrillo on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    increible que buen …
    increible que buen piloto exelente

  15. thadikaran10 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    wow, scary …
    wow, scary landing.Excellent pilot.

  16. Aviator213 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    He got down into …
    He got down into ground effect and thats when hope was lost, he didn’t keep enough airleron into the wind and drifted too far over to the downwind side of the runway. I’f he’d have stayed further to the upwind side he’d have been alright. I’m not crazy about flying approaches crabbed though, I like to keep the airleron in but straighten things out with the opposite rudder, makes you work more but the approach will be better

  17. varokiller on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    GOD
    GOD

  18. Jammylegend1 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    i dont know …
    i dont know about flying but i think that pilot done a great save, that was close.
    i sound dumb i know but you get my point.

  19. skyholepuncher on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    To whoever you are …
    To whoever you are that actually think that they are really in a 155 mph or knot X-wind……ARE YOU INSANE!!! First of all 155 of anything wind-wise we are talking Cat 4 or 5 hurricane winds. If the winds were really that strong how did those people filming even stand on the ground without being blown away??? Did you think about that. I can ure you that if it was really the case there would have been no attempt in the first place and that is well above the aircrafts X-wind capabilities.

  20. fbp766x on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    If the crosswind is …
    If the crosswind is within the certified envelope of the aircraft, one makes the approach in the manner appropriate to the type, which was the case here. If the reported crosswind is outside that limit, one can either hold, and wait for it to die down, or divert.
    Fair to ume the approach was legal, and the technique looked sound, but in gusting conditions, it can still go pear shaped at the last moment.
    The ‘bus’ has a subtly different set of control laws which may not have helped matters.

  21. eg120254 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    Op deze video zie …
    Op deze video zie ik geen enkele richtingsroer uitslag om de crosswind te compenseren !?!

  22. eg120254 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    Can you see on this …
    Can you see on this video any rudder to composate the crosswind ?!?

  23. morganamiranda on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    Yes, they could …
    Yes, they could went around and everybody is alive. – BUT, BUT, the approach was VERY BAD. Pay attention the A320 was, on the first moment, escaping to the right side (wind’s wing so down). Then, it looks like they forgot to keep this wing down using the ailerons (the right wing went up)and WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THE MANUALS HAPPENS. The rudder was – also – made to these situations. – What about the crosswind component? Isn’t it over the Manual’s limit? In my opinion: Not heroes. Irresponsability!

  24. BLDMLN1007 on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    thesepilots, more …
    thesepilots, more than competant.

  25. ddoler on October 18th, 2008 9:40 am

    He is approaching …
    He is approaching with a severe cross wind. He’s trained to crab into the wind to keep the wings level and the passengers comfortable. When he uses the rudder to straighten out he accelerates the upwind wing which creates lift and raises it. The strong crosswind gets under the uplifted wing and, well, the results are shown. He should have slipped the plane, kept the upwing wing down. When he leveled it would not have accelerated the wing and created additional lift.

    Been there, done that.

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