jeppeson charts: expiration dates; and new chart releases?
May 11, 2009
Do Aviation companies and aviation training schools usually buy the charts? Or do they put the burden on their professional pilots/professional flight instructors to get the necessary charts? Do airline operations departments have staff people whose job it is to constantly keep track of chart expirations, and new FAA requirements?
doc_phil: you're one guy out of 300, or out of 3000, who will ask me what I mean by charts! I used a very valid term "approach plate" and somebody corrected me and told me to call them charts! Theres SECTIONAL charts! Theres VFR TERMINAL AREA charts; then theres the Airport procedure chart, AKA "APPROACH" charts. And I might be leaving something out. The approach charts are bound in a thick book that you buy. A separate book for each state. doc_phil: do you fly real planes? Do you fly Microsoft FLight Simulator. Im just a Microsoft simulator dude, but dude: its no game: dont waste your time with the simulator if you're not going to learn all the skill and knowledge to make it work good for you.
I just now noticed: doc_phil says "not a pilot. plane mechanic." I would have thought plane mechanics would be curious to learn the ins and outs of flying.
good answers so far about airlines, same goes for most larger companies.
I haven't heard of a flight school that provides its students with any charts at all. Jepp charts are expensive and not well suited for most flight schools. I have been to one school that had a computer program called Jeppview, its a computer program that has all the jepp charts and they could be printed easily. Pretty cool program but its expensive, the subscription was owned by the local state college and the flight school got their hands on a license for it.
NACO charts are totally free. Go online and print out what you need: http://naco.faa.gov/. They are different than Jepp charts but show all the same information. They can also be purchased at a very reasonable rate, I think I used to pay ~$5 for a book that has 5-6 states.
Flight schools do (or should) keep their electronics up to date. Some planes have chart view software as part of their MFD, I believe the G1000 has this feature, I know the newer Avidyne Entegra's do have this capability.
As far as enroute charts (IFR charts are called enroute [either low or high enroute] VFR are either WAC-World aeronautical chart, sectionals, or terminal area charts), that is something airlines and other companies usually take care of with their approach plates. At flight schools there are usually a few charts floating around, but its expected that the student buys their own.
I have more expired charts than I know what to do with, I use them as wrapping paper now.
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What do you mean by "charts"?
If you meant by checklists( i.e., flight engineers checklists) They would be replaced during regular maintenance intervals i'd think. And if need be changed, the manufacturer would send out said changes.
Response: With questions like that, Anything regarding the pilot's materials has nothing to do with the mechanic if it isn't bolted to the aircraft. That's whole bunch of different issues in the eyes of the FAA. But yes, I would like to pursue being a pilot, preferably helicopter
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not a pilot, plane mechanic
Airlines will buy the charts, flight schools will buy them, etc. Whoever is the owner/leader. I believe airlines do have departments that specialize in such things. Interesting question though!
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Soon to be student pilot, aspiring airline pilot
Yes, exactly. Airlines will have a chart subsription that they will send new approach plates, and enroute charts prior to their expriation dates, and most will have at least 1 person who's job is to update the books. Most airlines will have 1 set of charts per aircraft, and they remain in that aircraft. Each pilot does not have their own set. (they might, but typically they use the airlines). Jeppesson charts and NOAA are updated every 56 days,and will have a new effective date on them.
Some smaller companies/ and airlines with electronic flight instuments, can install the software in the computer where they can overlay the approch plate into the computer, and not requiring the paper copy. http://www.jeppesen.com/service.jsp?aWebcUrl=industry-solutions/marine/high_seas/electronic-navigational-charts.jsp&serviceName=Electronic+Navigational+Charts&category=Industry+Solutions&categoryName=Electronic+Charts&industryType=High+Seas&industry=Marine
Many flight schools and small operators may require the pilot to maintain current charts/approach plates, as this increases the cost to the company.
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good answers so far about airlines, same goes for most larger companies.
I haven't heard of a flight school that provides its students with any charts at all. Jepp charts are expensive and not well suited for most flight schools. I have been to one school that had a computer program called Jeppview, its a computer program that has all the jepp charts and they could be printed easily. Pretty cool program but its expensive, the subscription was owned by the local state college and the flight school got their hands on a license for it.
NACO charts are totally free. Go online and print out what you need: http://naco.faa.gov/. They are different than Jepp charts but show all the same information. They can also be purchased at a very reasonable rate, I think I used to pay ~$5 for a book that has 5-6 states.
Flight schools do (or should) keep their electronics up to date. Some planes have chart view software as part of their MFD, I believe the G1000 has this feature, I know the newer Avidyne Entegra's do have this capability.
As far as enroute charts (IFR charts are called enroute [either low or high enroute] VFR are either WAC-World aeronautical chart, sectionals, or terminal area charts), that is something airlines and other companies usually take care of with their approach plates. At flight schools there are usually a few charts floating around, but its expected that the student buys their own.
I have more expired charts than I know what to do with, I use them as wrapping paper now.
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Flight schools do not buy the students' charts.
Corporate, charter, and airline operators buy charts and issue them to the pilots or the aircraft.
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